HAHAHA... This One Is Sure Entertaining!
I just HAD to post this one! It is very entertaining to me how some men who love Islam behave! And I am so grateful and THANKFUL to GOD for not making me apart of Islam. So anyways... here we go...
MotherPope • Report Abuse
We must remember, there is a real reason the muslim brotherhood was outlawed all those years... and also... remember this too... where the Muslims go with their Sharia Law... death and destruction will soon follow.Collapse Replies
- Prometheus Prometheus • Report Abuse
@MotherPope: You have not forgotten that it was the Dubya that insisted that Mubarak allow the militant Islamic organization, the Muslim Brotherhood, to be allowed to participate in Egyptian politics, don't you? Republicans tend to forget that their side is nothing more than one of the two conjoined twins known as the democrats and republicans.
- MotherPope •
Bush was lied to... as it is with Islam... muslims are allowed to lie to the infidels... and Bush is and was considered an infidel.
- Rearden Metal • Report Abuse
"where the Muslims go with their Sharia Law... death and destruction will soon follow." -------Well, Duh! Now you're just stating the obvious. I mean, someone would have to be a Republicrat politician to not already understand this.
- MotherPope •
Rearden Metal... I've only been complaining of this for over 2 years now! I am VERY GLAD people are catching on! :)
- MotherPope •
You would be very surprised at how many people in this world have NO CLUE... I mean the only ones that do, are the people like us who read world news and talk about it. Many people are to busy with their lives to bother with world events. I happen to of grown up in hell, survived and now I want others to know of the abuse still going on today... And Sharia Law endorses abuse of women.
- Rearden Metal • Report Abuse
"Rearden Metal... I've only been complaining of this for over 2 years now! I am VERY GLAD people are catching on! :)"------- And I've been saying it since long before 9/11... But I spent ten years of my childhood in the Middle East, so that's an 'unfair advantage' on my part. I bet you have an interesting back-story too...
- Rearden Metal • Report Abuse
MotherPope, ever heard of the phrase 'Cassandra Complex'? If not, that's something worth looking up, because it appears you may have it too.
- Wael • Report Abuse
Right on MP. An educated and thoroughly informed people is hard to manipulate. Did you know that the Saudi Regime is the world's largest per capita purchaser of torture instruments? Research this fact with human rights/dignity advocacy groups and you will see what I am saying. If this Islamist regime tortures its own people in a record braking manner, why would they not inflict suffering on the peoples of other lands?
- Prometheus Prometheus • Report Abuse
@MotherPoop: The Bush family live in the back pockets of the Kuwaiti royals ... Bush wasn't lied to... he was ordered to go pee in the corner and he did.
- Think About It. • Report Abuse
The Islamic Brotherhood is not great but they are hardly Egypt's biggest problem. The only reason they got into power is because Egypt was already collapsing.
- Chu • Report Abuse
They got rid of a corrupt politician to vote in a radical islamist, I think I prefer the corrupt politician lol
- MotherPope •
WOW, Mr Metal... I looked it up on google... and lol... so strange, you are not the first to say something like that... in fact, just this week... a lovely friend I met on here said something similar... It is very frustrating to say the least. But some people know me and know to listen to what I say cause for the last 30+ years or more... I have said many things that have come to pass, so many I cant count. And people come back to me to tell me... 'hey, you were right"... and still I have a reputation of sorts (a scary one at that!lol) but still, people come from all over... many friends come and talk to me... lol... this has been good for those who listen... but for those who haven't... well they do now. Recently I told someone they had better stop doing something bad... they chose to continue... and it came down on them 2 days later. I do this all the time! lol... wow... I have to go copy what someone just told me a few days ago... it sorta freaks me out...lol...
- Prometheus Prometheus • Report Abuse
@MotherPope: Are you saying that you are a prophetess? Perhaps you are only a seer? Will I get any money ... I could sure use some?
- Michael A. • Report Abuse
rearden metal, you have been reported to yahoo customer care for abusing. your comments are pretty sick.
- Rearden Metal • Report Abuse
MP: Very cool, especially because I do it too: 1)The S&P 500 stock index will drop over 5% by the end of June... 2) Gold will drop below $1300/oz by the end of the year. Do you have any of these you'd like to share?
- Veandercross • Report Abuse
MotherPope: You have no idea what you are talking about. The MB is a recognized political party. They renounced violence 57 years ago. I suggest you educate yourself before making statements that make you look completely clueless.
- Rearden Metal • Report Abuse
Seriously, the original post by MotherPope gets tons of thumbs up, and then I merely agree with what she's saying, and I get a ton of boos?!... I really don't get it, is this just missed sarcasm, or what?
- Veandercross • Report Abuse
MotherPope: you said: " as it is with Islam... muslims are allowed to lie to the infidels... " Please show me exactly where in the Qu'ran doe sit say Muslims can "lie to infidels". After you cant find it, can you please return here and retract your statement and apologize for your willful ignorance/stupidity and misrepresentation of text? Thank you.
- MotherPope •
Prometheus, weird that you say that... but... that's what they told me I was, in the church that I was baptized in back in 1979... now, I don't belong to any church... I would prob get thrown out. But anyways here is part of what someone from Africa wrote to me and I thought it was pretty good considering they have never met me... and... I desperately needed those words... as I have my own troubles in life, but here is what she said to me; Nancy...you are A BLESSED WOMAN.You have a heart of an angel.The love you have for people .....in general....is amazing! Am praying for you daily....and JUST BE PATIENT.God will do more for you.He loves you so much and i have this feeling that people don't quiet understand you.....you want to do something great...but its like you don't have the support or understanding that you need.....(sorry if i am misunderstanding you)......but i have that feeling.and that is why a place like Africa touches your heart so much because you have the urge and the time to want to know people more.Nancy you care...you are so unique....and i can confess here for you that you are the first and only person that i have known who is genuine....and the only angel that in not known.As the saying goes....a prophet is not recognized in his own town.But thats NOT important.What is important is that God knows you....knows WHO YOU ARE...KNOWS YOUR HEART...FULLY UNDERSTANDS YOU......and believe me dear sista.Its ONLY A MATTER OF TIME BEFORE God comes to reward you.Something Will happen to you....and not only one thing...BUT God will answer all YOUR PRAYERS AND WISHES....AND DO EVEN GREATER AND BETTER THINGS FOR YOU
- Prometheus Prometheus • Report Abuse
@MotherPope: Yeah, okay, great story ... what about my money? Will I get some money ... I'm desperate here ... I need money, I'm broke.
- MotherPope •
Veandercross; Here is the verses from the Koran, since other Muslims deny the hadiths, but none of them can deny the koran (verse 2:1) or question it.
Qur'an (2:225) - "Allah will not call you to account for thoughtlessness in your oaths, but for the intention in your hearts"
Qur'an (3:54) - "And they (the disbelievers) schemed, and Allah schemed (against them): and Allah is the best of schemers." The Arabic word used here for scheme (or plot) is makara, which literally means deceit. If Allah is deceitful toward unbelievers, then there is little basis for denying that Muslims are allowed to do the same. (See also 8:30 and 10:21) - MotherPope •
lol... Prometheus.... :) I want so bad to tell you that you will receive lots of money... but it doesn't work like that... I have to be inspired by the spirit to speak of these things... so I am like walking around trying to get a feel of sorts... cause that happens sometimes... I am praying for a positive feeling... but then there is a negative feeling... but I cant figure if its coming from you or the money... I mean, it could be that you are just making fun of me (that is a negative too)... and you will actually get money... or it could be that you will be in the red... like most Americans... sad... how bout this?! We can PRAY that you get money! But sometimes we don't get what we want in prayer, (for our own good). So I would say... don't worry about it... money will only bring you more problems. Money is a great tool... but a cruel god :(
- MotherPope •
I agree Mr Metal... ohhh, hey... I predict that Hillary Clinton will not be Prez in 2016! :) lol... and bartering will come back in style! :)
- Rearden Metal • Report Abuse
LOL... If you want I can email you links from years ago when she was the 'odds on favorite' to become president in 2008- anyways I made it pretty clear back then that Hillary will never EVER become president! Simply put, she lacks the charisma, and charisma is what matters most to the masses.
- MotherPope •
find my email, this id... all small letters at this place... lol... I agree with you on that one! :) So glad we agree!
- MotherPope •
Being an athiest is OK as long as you live a life filled with LOVE... for in LOVING ONE ANOTHER, you fulfill the law... its only bad if you let hate lead you.
- Veandercross • Report Abuse
Mother Pope: you said:
Qur'an (2:225) - "Allah will not call you to account for thoughtlessness in your oaths, but for the intention in your hearts" - Where does it say to lie to INFIDELS???? Quote it for me. THis verse has absolutely nothing to do with lying to infidels. YOu copy and pasted this off an Islamic apologetic site. LAME.
Qur'an (3:54) - "And they (the disbelievers) schemed, and Allah schemed (against them): and Allah is the best of schemers." The Arabic word used here for scheme (or plot) is makara, which literally means deceit. If Allah is deceitful toward unbelievers, then there is little basis for denying that Muslims are allowed to do the same. (See also 8:30 and 10:21) - Nice try. Another copy and paste job. The Arabic word makara does not mean deceit, lol. It means plot or scehem. Where does it say to lie to INFIDELS???? Quote it for me. This verse has absolutely nothing to do with lying to infidels. YOu copy and pasted this off an Islamic apologetic site. LAME.
Your ignorance has been exposed. - Prometheus Prometheus • Report Abuse
@Mother Pope: I'm also a misanthrope ... I vehemently dislike all human beings.
- Veandercross • Report Abuse
Mother Pope: Me being a Muslim or not being a Muslim has nothing to do with my question to you since you LIED against Islam just to advance your bigoted views.
Now I ask you for the THIRD time now - quote me the exact verse/s from the Qu'ran that clearly state to lie to infidels. Not your spin or twist (please dont try and tell me what an Arabic word means, I speak the language fluently and your lame attempts only show desperation, not understanding)., not your own pulling out of thin air interpretations - no just show me an explicit verse from the Qu'ran that backs up what you said.
Looking forward to it, lol. - Veandercross • Report Abuse
I think it is very dishonest and deceptive as well as doing your own faith a mighty disservice when you lie against other faiths. You need to educate yourself about Islam and familiarise yourself with the texts on an elementary level before you start quoting verse which you clearly havent studied and know nothing about. IT's a sad blight on your religion Christianity. Now THAT is a bloodthirsty religion and the Bible is replete with verses not to LIE to non beleivers but to KILL THEM. I think it is you who is afraid of reading something beyond your FOX News propaganda.
- MotherPope •
I don't read FOX news... and its sad that all you have for me is insults and name calling... just like a muslim... Yes. Muslims are allowed to lie to non muslims... it is a fact! lol... even an X muslim asked me how I knew that?... well, I read the book! I told him... (and I was quite grossed out)... he said he was a new Christian, and was glad that some people read for themselves and know the truth of Islam.
- MotherPope •
Prometheus... sometimes there is good reason to dislike humans when you see the horrible things that they do or say... but... we should remember, there are a lot of good people doing a lot of good things in the world...this is a good sign! :)
- Veandercross • Report Abuse
Motherpope: I am not a Muslim. But I do detest liars like yourself who dont have the slightest clue about what they are talking about. You then re-assert Muslims are allowed to lie to non Muslims and then sya it is a fact yet are unable to furnish a single piece of evidence to support your blatant lies. Its a fact because...you say so? LOL, sorry sunshine it doesnt work that way. Your pathetic story about the ex Muslim blah blah and you reading the Qu'ran is just another tale of lies you have spun thus far. I know your ilk - you are ignorant but hope clueless people such as yourself dont ask you to back up your claims. Otherwise, you would furnish your evidence. All you have done is copy and paste from a polemic website and I can prove you did so word for word. BUSTED! LOL, now either fess up you are an unashamed liar or furnish your evidence. And please, spare me your ex Muslim stories, I see straight through your lies and decoy tactics.
- Veandercross • Report Abuse
You know you have been caught out too - daring to say the Arabic word means something when it means nothing of the sort! Is that what your religion and holy book teach you to do - lie and misrepresent others? Shame on you and your blatant lies. I dare you to furnish your evidence - I DARE YOU. You won't because you know deep down you are ignorant of Islam and are making up stories to simply justify your xenophobic and racist tendencies. By the wya if you want to read some nice pornopgraphy, read the Bible, Ezekiel, Chapter 23. Disgusting!
- Daniel • Report Abuse
Veandercross, many, many people have read that in the quran, so your "arrogance" over it is a joke! It's also a proven fact that anywhere muslims go, violence and killings follow, they can't co-exist with anyone!!!
- Rearden Metal • Report Abuse
MotherPope, I see you took me up on my offer... No problem, I've already sent you an email with the heading 'Cassandra Complex'...
- Veandercross • Report Abuse
Daniel: Shut the hell up dude, you have no idea what you are talking about. The verses she quoted have absolutely NOTHING to do with lying to infidels. The Qu'ran condemns liars dozens of times throughout the text and forbids it. To ALL. So before blabbering like a walrus, go educate yourself first. Thank you.
- Veandercross • Report Abuse
Motherpope: Still waiting for your "fact" of Muslims being allowed to lie to non Muslims. I told you that you wouldnt be able to find a single verse backing up what you said. Like i expected, just another ignorant, uneducated internet keyboard warrior or regurgitates Fox News and has absolutely no idea what she is talking about. If you ever find the verse, post it. I'll be here laughing.
- Rearden Metal • Report Abuse
Vean, are you saying that the wikipedia article on Taqiyya has it all wrong? There are numerous citations there directly from the koran. I'm no Islamic scholar, but it seems to ring true...___________________________
"The practice of concealing one's beliefs in dangerous circumstances originates in the Qur'an, which deems blameless those who disguise their beliefs in such cases.[8] The practice of taqiyya in difficult circumstances is considered legitimate by Muslims of various sects. Sunni and Shi'a commentators alike observe that verse 16:106 refers to the case of 'Ammar b. Yasir, who was forced to renounce his beliefs under physical duress and torture.[9]
Quran 3:28 enjoins Muslims not to take the company of non-Muslims over Muslims unless as a means of safeguarding themselves. "Let not the believers take those who deny the truth for their allies in preference to the believers – since he who does this cuts himself off from God in everything – unless it be to protect yourself against them in this way…"[10] Regarding 3:28, Ibn Kathir, a prominent authority writes, "meaning, except those believers who in some areas or times fear for their safety from the disbelievers. In this case, such believers are allowed to show friendship to the disbelievers outwardly, but never inwardly." He quotes Muhammad's companion, Abu Ad-Darda', who said "we smile in the face of some people although our hearts curse them," and Al-Hasan who said "the Tuqyah is acceptable till the Day of Resurrection."[11]" - Veandercross • Report Abuse
Rearden Metal: Dude, you are going to source a Wikpedia article over the scholastic works of scholars over 14 centuries?
Let's take each of the ones you cited: The first instance refers to an incident when a man by the name of Ammar bin Yaser was tortured by his enemies and forced to renounce his faith. The torture was so brutal and severe that he uttered words of disbelief. When the Prophet Muhammad heard about this, he told him if you are tortured again do the same thing again. His first and foremost priority was his well being and safety. So the verse was revealed about those who are forced into a life and death situation. Outside life and death, the standard of telling the truth is all over the Qu;ran.
The remaining references you cited from Wikpedia have a historical context. Each of the incidents was referring to certain battles that took place. No nation on earth is going to divulge State secrets in times of war and these incidents are nothing unusual.
But Motherpope would have you believe Muslims are simply allowed to lie to non Muslims which i have illustrated, is complete and utter BS with absolutely no foundation whatsoever. - MotherPope •
Prometheus... you have been heavy in my heart all night and all day... and I could hardly wait to get here to tell you this I totally get why you hate humans... when we read the news, we are bombarded with the horrible things that people do. I grew up in hell... I have felt the same way that you do... I totally understand and respect the fact that you have the guts to say it... I think that you have had many bad unfair things happen to you. And in your heart, you justify your dislike of humans. And I have to say... when it comes to people like Vean, its easy to understand why! :) But... please remember, that many humans are good people! There are many people out there in the world doing good things. You really don't have to look far to find them. But they are there. Most are behind closed doors. Most GOOD people do things in private... not to be seen of men... but if you really pay attention to people... you can easily spot the good ones. I also feel like you hate your own life... there is something that has happened to you... that hurt you worse than death itself... in fact, you have wanted to die haven't you? I feel so much pain with you... and... like, you don't know what to do... or... maybe... you can't do anything... I am feeling your anguish... things are not right somewhere. Here is what you do... BREATH deeply... and know that you cannot control other people... they have their own choices... even if they are wrong... they have the right to make their own mistakes (they learn by them). And SMILE... cause you haven't been doing enough of that lately... things have been bogging you down in your head... let all that go! See it going when you exhale... feel the fresh air coming in... (I hope you are in a place where there is fresh air) When you are walking down the street... see the hard core adults some are like zombies? Now look at the innocent children... smile at them... they are our future... pray for them that they will fix the unjustness in the world. Because... as you see... people are not doing a very good job these days, there is corruption in high places... But in time... things will change... and in time... your reward will be much greater than money... because very soon... you will discover LOVE for yourself... and you will then... feel better! {{{HUGS4U}}} I will be praying for you... :)
- MotherPope •
Mr Metal... I have not gotten to my email yet, but I plan on going there right after this and 1 more post... thank you for thinking of me... I am very interested in learning more...
- MotherPope •
Veandercross... this is a NEWS BOARD... this is not a war zone... and I do not have to PROVE anything to you... I have a right to my opinion! And remember... we already know that its allowed for muslims to lie to non muslims... if you could manage to find my face book, you would see for yourself why I have the opinion that I and most smart people do, we are wise to the lies of Islam!
You have a dark spirit... there is darkness all around you... I know who you are... and I am not going to play your game. I have posted your scripture and have had people back me up. I have had personal experience with this issue... so I stand with my original statement... Muslims are allowed to lie to non muslims for the advancement of muslims. This is a FACT... Dude! I will not recant and I will not stand down! And all your insults make me JUMP with JOY... to know I hit your soft spot! Now go and be with people who are like minded as you... but I can tell you now... you wont be happy! You cant run from the demons within... but maybe one day you can rebuke them out of your life and become a positive productive citizen. - Veandercross • Report Abuse
Motherpope: News Flash: Your opinion is based on absolute garbage and fabrications. You have put forward some regurgitated hot air and I have dimantled your argument based on what the scholars have said. You are not entitled to make up stories which you have. In other words, you baiscally lied in order to make a point.
I asked you FOURT times now to bring a single shred of evidence from the Qu'ran backing up your claims and all you have done is just repeat "its ok for Muslims to lie to non Muslims". LOL in other words, you only show your own ill informed views and bigotry as well as irrational hate when you cannot even bring a shred of evidence to support your views.
You have lied and lied and been unable to even put forward half a decent argument. Youve been caught out lying and you know it and the only way for you now to save face is to just reassert your statement and call it an opinion.
Its like me saying the moon is purple and when challeneged I just say 'everyone knows its purple".
Pathetic Motherpope. - Veandercross • Report Abuse
You are the one with the black heart, and dark spirit as well as racist bigotry. You can jump up and down all day and say "its a fact!" all you like - THE FACTS are i just illustrated to readers what a pathetic liar you really are.
Everyone now knows you are un unashamed liar and fraud. Copying and pasting word for word your argument from a polemic site and then being caught! Busted!
And you are so arrogant that even when your lis have been exposed, you say no I am right, I stand by what I said.
Your ignorance and stupidity is a stain on your own faith and country. You make us Americans look like uneducated fools when you simply put forward arguments that have absolutely no basis at all.
Then when presented with a rebuttal to your trash, you simply say no I am right without even having the spine to address what was presented because you like i said, have absolutely no idea what you are talking about.
You have been exposed and you know it and now all you have left is to personally insult me and make racist remarks.
Very good example of what a Christian is supposed to be like isn't it?
LOL, whenever you get exposed, you start abusing others.
I wait now for the FIFTH time for you to post just one single shred of evidence from the Qu'ran stating Muslims can lie to non Muslims in the advancement of Islam. LOL, I wont hold my breath - hahahahahahahah. - Veandercross • Report Abuse
Come on Motherpope, at least try to salvage what is left of your torn to pieces argument. Post something - ANYTHING to give any sort of life to your lies.
Not only are you a hate mongerer, but you actually lie and twist texts in order to make a point and when you are completely caught red handed in your lies, have nothing to say other than to demand I beleive you - even though you wont dare debate me because you know you are ignorant.
I am laughing my head off at your professed expertise and how you quickly flee from an argument when presented with the truth.
Your experiences, Facebook, blah blah BS is irrelevant to the facts.
Retract what you said or continue looking like a complete and utter oxygen thief and fraud. - MotherPope •
HAHAHAHA... insult me all you want... Dude! As long as we are having fun! :) Do you love me? Sounds like you are REALLY into me! :) WOW that's cool! ... I don't see any argument... except by you! It is a muslim who lies and says they are a Christian, that twists the truth to manipulate other peoples minds... but, SORRY... ya cant manipulate mine! Ya see, when I grew up in hell. I was taught all about lying and manipulating... oh yeah... lol... would you like to meet my 5 sisters? lol... they could rip your mind apart! HAHAHA... I laugh just thinking about it! But me... I saw that there is nothing worth lying for... besides... GOD knows our hearts and minds... we cant lie to HIM! SO whats the use? No... I stand on the truth... I even wrote a song about it... we call it SOTWOG! Me and my Grand children... yes, they sing along while I am singing and playing it on my guitar... can you GUESS what SOTWOG means? :)
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