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MotherPope • Report AbuseAnd if I was a Judge... I would ALLOW the gay marriage ban... because... #1 it is GROSS and #2, there is no need for same sex marriage! We have perverted the peoples minds to make it acceptable... for what reason? That's the real question! People get married to create families, have babies... follow nature... WHY do the gays want that? Their union is NOT HOLY... WHY? So what... you love each other... FINE, then live with each other... no need to announce what you are doing in your bedrooms to the world!
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- TugMyPlug • Report Abuse
i don't have a perverted mind, I am not homosexual, I am A-okay with gay marriage. It's not gross to them, what you do with your man is gross to them.. "People get married to create families, have babies... follow nature" THAT is not completly true.. some people get marries as a commitment to one another AND for the legal aspects..
- Mike • Report Abuse
Then don't marry another woman--find some guy that likes fat chicks and you'll be just dandy.
- Mike • Report Abuse
1. Marriage is a civil contract between two people
2. Marriage is not religious
3. Christians live in chastity if they want to get into paradise; it is in the bible and the writings of the church fathers; the earliest Christians were all virgins
4. Marriage was considered so carnal and sinful, no marriage was permitted inside a church building for the first 1,500 years of the Christian religion.
How does it feel eo be ignorant about your own religion? Pretty sad I suspect. - MotherPope •
Marriage began in the 'HOLY church of GOD' to bind together 1 man and 1 woman together for a lifetime, to create and celebrate with children for future generations.... Marriage is VERY religious... it is the civil unions which are not religious... and GOD said "reproduce and multiply" does that sound like everyone should be virgins? And, IMO... it is wrong for some churches to not allow its priests to marry... in such cases... they turn to pedophilia with the young boys... so who knows what about which religion???
- Mike • Report Abuse
MP--I gave you the facts. You give me make believe fantasies formed in your empty head.
St Paul says you should be chaste. St Augustine said you should remain a virgin and only fornicators should marry. The first Christians remained virgins for life. Jesus was unmarried, all of his disciples were unmarried.
These are the people that founded the Christian religion--you didn't found it, you don't even understand or know it You're ignorance is pathetic. - MotherPope •
Who is to say... who cannot and who can have children,. that is left up to GOD. If they love each other and marry, most want to have children to carry on the family, but some cannot. Its all in GODs hands as to why or why not.
- Mike • Report Abuse
How can someone who is not a Christians, who does not understand the Christian religion, who does not practice Christian values, who makes up her own definition of "christian" so that it suits her lifestyle choices speak about what god does or does not want or have planned. What utter and absolute arrogance.
- MotherPope •
I am not arrogant Mike. I am speaking the truth, I have studied many religions... it is something I love to do... and I am always lead by the spirit of GOD... because... that is what I do :) Not for any reason... except that I must do it. Do a web search on motherpope... you might be a bit surprised... try thinking outside the box Mike :)
- Mike • Report Abuse
Yet, you still know nothing about the Christian religion, its founding, its beliefs, its practices. You are indeed in your own box, one that you fashioned to suit your lifestyle, your needs, your world view--it has precious little to do with Christianity. So I can assure you, you do not know the mind of god, you cannot know what spirit is driving you (I'm certain it is not god's)--I rather suspect it is a willful, self-obsessed mindset that drives you. And I certainly don't need a web search to see that you are lost and have absolutely no standing to tell others that they are not sacred.
- MotherPope •
Mike, I believe Jesus was secretly married... and I believe that sex is natural... and the reason the forefathers of Christianity were against sex is because it got so many young people in trouble. Having sex and making babies is how we continue to exist as a people... how can anyone say that is wrong?... There is such thing as TRUE LOVE that goes beyond mankinds understanding... thats why sex was feared... it could cause a lot of trouble... and people were murdered for doing it... they still are under Islam... If GOD wanted people to NOT have sex, HE would of 'not' made Eve for Adam!
- Mike • Report Abuse
The founding, dogma and history of the Christian religion is not an "opinion", they are all facts. You are incapable of understanding these facts and are unwilling to study them for your edification. So indeed, everything you have stated is an opinion, even less an opinion since they are based on willful ignorance and fabrication intended as a defense for your life view and life style. Ignorance is indeed bliss isn't it when you can make up life's rules for yourself and to pound others you do not approve of over the head. Arrogance, ignorance, certainty--all sins at which you excel.
- Mike • Report Abuse
As for your penultimate statements: There is no proof Jesus was married. Your "belief" is based on your imagination and nothing more. And I can tell you it is not an accepted position of the Christian faith that on one hand you purport to defend and on the other you slap across the face.
As for sex, ignorance is once again your friend. Jesus came to this world to tell people not to be of this world but to set their sights on heaven. And to this end, the Christian religion was an ascetic undertaking--put aside world goods and worldly pleasures. There was no need to have children in the Christian era because Jesus would return and destroy the world and everyone then living. You continue to refer to Adam and Eve--yet Jesus came to the world to change it---nothing was as it had been before. Now there was no need for sex or children or perpetuating mankind.
And if true love is beyond understanding, then you have no business telling same sex couples they cannot love--because it is indeed beyond your understanding. - MotherPope •
Ummm excuse me, you don't know what I have studied... you don't know me at all! Especially with you saying those sort of things about me without even knowing who I am and what I have done in my life... but GOD will show you one day... I pray for your understanding of the true nature of GOD! You are... More
- MotherPope •
No, my belief is based on the spirit within me... and the way you tell it, no wonder there are so many atheists... And I said... GOD HIMSELF knew that Adam needed Eve :)
- Mike • Report Abuse
I can tell you haven't studied Christianity because you clearly know nothing about it.
And again, your contemptible arrogance--god will show me one day what you have done with your life? You must think yourself cosmically important--laughable really. And you can pray all you like--what makes you think god cares about your petty self-important desires and wishes. More arrogance.
Now your "belief" is based on a spirit that is within you. Yet you think this mumbo jumbo belief system you've created for yourself so that you be perfect while the world around "you" is evil, is biblical. Yet more self-obsession and total arrogance.
BTW, god told adam and ever to have sex, not get married. Jesus came, then there was no more need for procreation. But then, you sound like a pseudo-christian with no need for a christ.
I think we've determined absolutely now that you are no Christian and are certainly in no position whatever to be pounding others over the head with your special-make-believe-motherpope-brand of voodooism+mysticism+self-obsessed-holier-than-thou hatred and judgment. - MotherPope •
O Yahoo... your gonna censor my statement that I need Christ more than I need the air that I breath ? What happened to the rest of my post yahoo? Really? Am I that scary?
- MotherPope •
I really think its NOT fair that yahoo took away my whole post! That was wrong yahoo.. it took me time and energy to answer and POOF... Mike must be one of yahoo people who delete peoples posts.
- Mike • Report Abuse
No, I don't report posts. It was god's mysterious will at work, since his hands are found in everything we do.
- MotherPope •
No... Mike... It shows the people are not wanting to hear about Jesus and GOD... and don't worry... this wont stop me from doing what I need to do...
- C C • Report Abuse
MotherPope, be careful how much you advocate GOD's law as US law. If the majority of this country switches to Sharia law we could finally drape a curtain over your head and tell you to shut up unless you were asked to speak.
Separation of church and state is the law of the land to protect even you from that kind of abuse.
Don't get me wrong I don't believe in Gay marriage myself. But I also believe that my Christian religious beliefs are between "me" and "my maker" and its not my place to force them on anyone else.
Also I believe in the US Constitution as a whole and that includes protecting the rights of the people I may not agree with, including gay and religious bigots such as yourself. - Mike • Report Abuse
The bible is already quite clear that women are NOT to instruct men in religion: "I do not permit a woman to teach or to have authority over a man; she must be silent." 1 Timothy 2. But the bible does not apply to MP (that is inconvenient for MP's lifestyle choices), it only applies to gays. LOL--the hypocrisy is astounding.
- StrangeMagic/AlmostHuman • Report Abuse
The second some worthless religious nut thinks they have a right to impact anothers existancebecause of what ther non exsistant god says, it's time for them to be shown the door.
- Rob Merton • Report Abuse
Gay-ists do not content themseft to be let take their lust where the pup is, but they want to pipi and pup on everything else; especially the sacred! Sounds like Satan at work.
- MotherPope •
CC, I do not advocate GODS law as mans law... mans law is not always morally or ethically correct...but Gods law is! And I agree with you about the separation of church and state benefits not only me, but all the others too, who speak out with their opinion. I am not forcing my beliefs on anyone CC... but I wont shut my mouth if GOD tells me to speak, I have tried that already and it doesn't work... God gets irritated with me and wont let me have any peace until I do what HE says... I don't care if everyone believes me or not... I am not here to please men, I am here to please GOD... when I meet my maker, I don't want HIM to be mad at me for not doing what I am told to do! And Mike, mock me all you want... And Its true the men didn't want the women to speak... CAUSE THEY WOULD STAND UP FOR THEIR RIGHTS! GOD dwells in women just as much as HE does men. I do not have anything special that does not apply to all who seek, I am not a babe in the Lord... I am 35 years old in the Lord. Thousands of years ago woman did NOT have a voice... a hundred years ago, women did NOT have the vote... but we've come a long way... (well, unless your muslim... women have no rights under Sharia Law). Mike, I pray that you very soon find the TRUTH of the LIVING GOD WHO LIVES WITHIN THE HEARTS AND MINDS OF HIS PEOPLE... not just men... HIS PEOPLE... and I do know when to be quiet, but now is not the time! Now is the time to SHOUT UNTO THE MOUNTAINTOPS... Try reading REV 21; 3! Hello! :) Sometimes... things are not what they seem... They hated Jesus and they will hate the followers of Jesus too... people like you... Mike and others who lack understanding! Sad, You got all that book learnin' but you lack the SPIRIT!
- Mike • Report Abuse
God is not telling you to do anything. If you think it is, you need counseling. And you are not "in the Lord". You are not a "Christian". As I've previously related to you, you have your own thing going that is self-obsessive. I just gave you a quote from the Bible that forbids you to speak of religion to men--yet here you are laying one sin on the other. I suspect Satan is who you are hearing and it is his Spirit who has inhabited you.
- MotherPope •
Mike, you are entitled to your opinion... just because you are the one responding to my posts doesn't mean you are the one I am reaching out to. You have no clue about me nor what I am nor what I do... and I am not preaching to you... I am just posting my opinion. You don't have to read it!
- Mike • Report Abuse
. . . Timothy said a woman must remain SILENT. Do you need help understanding what SILENT means? It seems like you have no idea.
- Mike • Report Abuse
"Let the women learn in silence with all subjection. But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence. For Adam was first formed, then Eve. And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression." (I Timothy 2:11-14)
- Mike • Report Abuse
"Of the woman came the beginning of sin, and through her we all die." (Eccles. 25:22)
- Mike • Report Abuse
"For from garments cometh a moth, and from women wickedness. Better is the churlishness of a man than a courteous woman, a woman, I say, which bringeth shame and reproach." (Eccles. 42:13-14)
- MotherPope •
And Jesus DIED for women's sins just as well as men's... we are equal in the eyes of our Lord! For all have sinned... not one is perfect. I have seen some pretty wicked men in my life! :)
- Mike • Report Abuse
Motherpope doesn't believe in the Bible. Except for the sentence about about gays. The rest she ripped out and threw in the garbage heap.
- Mike • Report Abuse
This is your typical hypocrite who fancies themselves a Christian. They ignore all of the Bible that relates to THEM. They take the other parts and hit their enemies over the head with it. What a sad and pathetic lot they are. Hypocrites all. And they expect to see god---lol.
- Mike • Report Abuse
And as we've seen you've done the devil's work well MP.
You are a mess. You know nothing about Christianity. You do not practice the religion. You hate the bible. You refuse to accept the bible as god's word. You sin over and over again. You call quotes from the bible the words of satan. - MotherPope •
And you have no clue about me... your opinion is only speculation concerning my SPIRIT! So funny how you think you know me... when you know nothing about me... you just want to judge me with your arrogance! I read some of your posts to some friends here... and they say, you sound like your talking about yourself! I pray for you and your ill will...
- MotherPope •
Mike, Look at the original post... I have 33 thumbs up and 10 thumbs down... so what does that tell you... Oh feel happy Mike, Your rude disrespect is noted!
- Mike • Report Abuse
I know you from what you've written. You are clueless, bigoted and unchristian. I quote from the bible and you refuse to hear it. You only want to tell me how gays are sinful, while you commit one sin after the other yourself with complete indifference to the religion you claim to follow. That makes you a hypocrite. Don't like it, change your ways.
- Mike • Report Abuse
I don't care how many thumbs are going in which direction. Jesus died on the cross with thumbs down to fulfill prophecy. You should follow Jesus instead of spitting on him.
- Mike • Report Abuse
MP--you are the one with ill will--you came out hitting against gays. Do not be a liar on top of your other sins.
- MotherPope •
You have not been reading my posts Mike... I have friends who are gay... I do not judge them... but it is in both the old and new testament that homosexuality is an abomination unto GOD... you need to read Romans chapter 1... Dude!
- Mike • Report Abuse
And I read you the New and Old Testament where women are NOT to instruct men as you've done repeatedly----yet you ignore it!!!!!!! Hypocrite!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Like I've said repeatedly and you refuse to address: You ignore the parts of the Bible that don't fit YOUR lifestyle while banging other people over the head with the other parts of the Bible because you hate them.
There is no hope for you and never will be. What a shameful excuse for a human being. - MotherPope •
HAHAHA then why are you reading my posts? That scripture is about women speaking in the church... we are not in church... we are on a news board... where my voice is equal to yours... sounds like your sexist!
- MotherPope •
The Bible says if you are not FOR Christ, then you are against Christ... which makes you part of the anti Christ! You quote scripture yet you deny Romans ch 1? HAHAHA you are the hypocrite, Sir!
- Mike • Report Abuse
Timothy doesn't state in church---read the damned bible. I'm a sexist because I quote the bible. You're a Christian woman when you quote the bible. Hypocrite!
- Mike • Report Abuse
This is what has become of "Christianity" in this country. It is a free for all ,believe what you will, make up what you like, disregard what you don't, proposition. It is used by the illiterate and fools to hammer their personal agenda onto others using as an excuse that there is a "higher authority" backing them up.
As anyone can see from this exchange, this unfortunate woman knows nothing about the religion or the bible (except the bits she uses to clobber her enemies), makes up nonsense about spirits and how she is super special and her specialness will be revealed to mankind when god deems.
Further, she refused, or more likely was completely incapable, of responding to even one single point I brought up. This, of course, is expected from someone who is completely bereft of knowledge, who is illiterate, and who makes up a religion on their own.
This is why religion is foundering and will die and why, in the meantime, snake dancing and hill billy churches rise in numbers, catering to idiocy. Religion only appeals to the mental cases who should be looking for therapy instead and to bigots and haters who can hide behind their select bible verses. - Mike • Report Abuse
More brainless blathering. No wonder god want's women to keep their mouth's shut. This one can't even address one point. Witless.
- MotherPope •
Mike, it is hard to communicate when yahoo censors certain truths... so I am going to be very delicate here. Thank you for hating me... the more you hate me, the stronger I get! :) I take your comments as compliments :) and do you know who was the last one waiting... alone... at the tomb of Jesus? A WOMAN. Your discounting women is so ancient... We have come of age! We are equal in the eyes of GOD! :) I am sure you are trying to accomplish something with all of the insults... but I and a group of my friends see you for what you really are! A liar. Get real, we are on a 'news board'... expressing 'opinions'... I would think that you must think I am pretty important to be even going on like you are. I want to be more specific, but I cannot. Yahoo would censor and I am really tired of them doing that. You have a good day Mike... and... never forget me... because... I love you :)
- Mike • Report Abuse
MP, go back and read your first post. Apparently you forgot that you posted about "perversion" and that gays do not deserve to be married. Your hatred is what you grow strong on.
Still----you are incapable of replying to even one of my posts. You are no christian. You are not spiritual. You are self-centered and self-important growing out of a compensation for lack of self-worth. - MotherPope •
And if you go back and read my first post... it got 45 thumbs up! :) I would say that speaks for itself. No one is reading all your rants. And why? HAHAHA You are the one making me special! I never once said I was special... anyone can have what I have... it is a free gift from GOD when you ask... More
- Mike • Report Abuse
And like I said, how many thumbs up did Jesus get when he was crucified? None.
Popular opinion was meaningless to him and everything to you. - MotherPope •
...seems very peculiar that I would even mean anything to you. Why are you wasting your time chatting with me?
- MotherPope •
You need GOD? You can find HIM too! But, you have to ask HIM for forgiveness for all your sins... and you would then live with LOVE in your heart!
- MotherPope •
Now I am feeling SAD for you... :( you have a stubborn block against GOD... you can FIX IT! :)
- Mike • Report Abuse
Why should I ask for forgiveness? You continually and willfully disobey his commandment that you remain silent. You are the sinner and the sinner does not love god. Ah, that's right, you do not accept the parts of the bible that apply to you--you only read the homosexual parts. The hypocrisy is... More
- MotherPope •
Mike, GOD is not telling me to be quiet! Who is telling me to be quiet on a public news board? And... You need to ask HIM for forgiveness of the wrong things that you do. And in fact... I am cheered on... to continue speaking!
- Mike • Report Abuse
Like I said, the Bible doesn't apply to you. LOL
Typical "Christian"--can't follow the Bible themselves and spend all their time telling others how awful they are. Busy bodies telling everyone hoe they must follow the Bible--but you can't be bothered with it--parts you don't like--well, just say they don't apply to you. Hell will be filled to the brim with "Christians" like you.
Absolute arrogance. Absolute hypocrisy. Absolutely hilarious.
Until you can follow the Bible--every word of it--don't bother coming back to lecture me. - MotherPope •
Well, at least your laughing! :) And I follow the Bible as it has been revealed to me BY THE SPIRIT of GOD! :) Not by men... And I believe I wont be seeing any part of HELL, my LOVE! :)
- Carlisle • Report Abuse
lmao, Mike you sir, are awesome. it's nice to have someone who actually has a clue post on here. Marriage has existed LONG before christianity ever came about. and if you believe in God, then you should understand that IT IS NOT YOUR PLACE TO JUDGE OTHERS! Bunch of Hypocrites.
- MotherPope •
sex has existed since the beginning of time... in GODs eyes, when 2 people have sex, they are married!
- Mike • Report Abuse
Thanks Carlisle. It's a romp posting to the likes of MP, who is as clueless as they come and who makes everything up as needed to suit herself. See her last post where anyone who has sex is thereby married---lol. Have you ever read anything so incredibly stupid? She knows what god is thinking because she is so incredibly "special". LOL Really, this chick makes it up as she goes along. What a piece of work.
Don't tell MP that the bible says in a dozen places that she cannot judge others, since she dismisses all bible passages that she doesn't care for--which is most of the bible. She doesn't like it--well, then ignore it. But don't ignore the gay passage, oh no, that one is good to keep. lol
These pseudo-Christians who cherry pick the bible and make up their own theology to fit their putrid lifestyle are a real kick. They all have some real mental issues as you can see. - MotherPope •
Mike, you are a hoot! I never judged anyone... where did I judge anyone on this post? I simply give my opinion like everyone else... as you can see there is almost 4 thousand comments... you think they are all one sided? I think you just have a 'thing' for me... I would never judge anyone for being a homosexual... but I am not going to be one! Because GOD says, we don't do that! You are the one passing judgement down on me. HA! To bad... for you and your buddy Carl~ you make me feel so good about myself, its unreal! Never have I ever said I was special... but you seem to say it at every post! Whats up with that?
- Mike • Report Abuse
MP refuses to acknowledge her sins much less repent for them. The bible is too inconvenient for her lifestyle, so she ignores the bible. She wants to talk about many rooms and gays. She doesn't want to read about judging others or how women are not to lecture men in public on things religious. No, that doesn't fit her "god-spirit" she thinks is lurking inside her. LOL
Yes, MP, don't focus on yourself, as Jesus said, focus on others, as Jesus said not to do. The hypocrisy is funnier and funnier with this one. - Mike • Report Abuse
. . . oh, MP, you are doing more than manipulating it--you have spat on it and burned it.
- MotherPope •
lol... oh Mike, now your just toying with me... you know LOVE will win in the end! And I am all about LOVE... and I love you playing with me... and I shall miss you when your gone! {{{HUGS}}} its OK LOVE... I know who you are :)
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